Comments on: Not Sitting in a Tree http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/ another blog from the boondocks Thu, 09 Sep 2010 11:45:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Anonymous http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/#comment-337 Anonymous Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:58:21 +0000 http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/#comment-337 anonymous 02.28.08...you got 1 great thought there! yes, we would rather that the church (all denominations, we mean)better "openly" cleaned their own backyards first before talking "openly" of government mess.just looks at that "petition" over the issue of gambling in Sagada where one says, the "clergy" should join. Should they joined the petition signing against those among sagada lay who gamble, or should they sign also against some of their colleagues involved in gambling? It is common knowledge that some Anglican clergy are good at the bicycle cards. anonymous 02.28.08…you got 1 great thought there! yes, we would rather that the church (all denominations, we mean)better “openly” cleaned their own backyards first before talking “openly” of government mess.just looks at that “petition” over the issue of gambling in Sagada where one says, the “clergy” should join. Should they joined the petition signing against those among sagada lay who gamble, or should they sign also against some of their colleagues involved in gambling? It is common knowledge that some Anglican clergy are good at the bicycle cards.

]]> By: Anonymous http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/#comment-328 Anonymous Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:08:14 +0000 http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/#comment-328 put it this way. the church itself is a corrupt institution (from the beginning until now). its like a criminal advising another criminal. the church is full of hypocrites put it this way. the church itself is a corrupt institution (from the beginning until now). its like a criminal advising another criminal. the church is full of hypocrites

]]> By: Layad http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/#comment-326 Layad Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:45:57 +0000 http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/#comment-326 I applaud Bp. Claver for sticking to his convictions. It was a personal choice for him, and as a citizen of the Philippines, he has a right to express his disapproval of the President. His is a personal one, but CBCP would be the 'official' one. For Concern Lang, I think that the CBCP would not meddle without being informed. I would rather have a church that expresses its opinion and dissatisfaction with the government, making their voices heard (meddling in a way), than one that just stays in the background and remains passive about current issues. After all, God is also the God of politics, as he is in all aspects of our life, isn't he? Given that the church has its own problems, that shouldn't stop them from getting the church out there where it really matters. After all, its parishioners are the ones affected by the corruption, cheating, and what-have-you of the government. I applaud Bp. Claver for sticking to his convictions. It was a personal choice for him, and as a citizen of the Philippines, he has a right to express his disapproval of the President.

His is a personal one, but CBCP would be the ‘official’ one. For Concern Lang, I think that the CBCP would not meddle without being informed. I would rather have a church that expresses its opinion and dissatisfaction with the government, making their voices heard (meddling in a way), than one that just stays in the background and remains passive about current issues. After all, God is also the God of politics, as he is in all aspects of our life, isn’t he?

Given that the church has its own problems, that shouldn’t stop them from getting the church out there where it really matters. After all, its parishioners are the ones affected by the corruption, cheating, and what-have-you of the government.

]]> By: NATS http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/#comment-320 NATS Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:42:20 +0000 http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/#comment-320 They should cleansed the church first before attempting in a much larger area such as the Philippines..In the church itself their are more than a dozen reports of immorality.. their supreme court (the Vatican) itself has thousands of cases if not millions to decide..True good people never seek the help of an evil to put another evil down.. if lozada admits that he is too a part of the corrupt system, the bishops ,nuns,priest senate i.e should stop praising him instead they will treat him like the way they treated GMA..Only in the philippines that the force of evil and the good ones as they claim (the priest,bishops,nun etc) combined to put another evil down..i should stop from using the word "church" so with others because the church refers to the community of believers.that is what they taught me in catholic schools. and this community of believers have different perspective on every issue..we are the church and not the structures where the priest conducts masses..so when the bishops speaks, they represents only themselves and not my own opinion or the opinion of others as member of the church or the community of believers.. They should cleansed the church first before attempting in a much larger area such as the Philippines..In the church itself their are more than a dozen reports of immorality.. their supreme court (the Vatican) itself has thousands of cases if not millions to decide..True good people never seek the help of an evil to put another evil down.. if lozada admits that he is too a part of the corrupt system, the bishops ,nuns,priest senate i.e should stop praising him instead they will treat him like the way they treated GMA..Only in the philippines that the force of evil and the good ones as they claim (the priest,bishops,nun etc) combined to put another evil down..i should stop from using the word “church” so with others because the church refers to the community of believers.that is what they taught me in catholic schools. and this community of believers have different perspective on every issue..we are the church and not the structures where the priest conducts masses..so when the bishops speaks, they represents only themselves and not my own opinion or the opinion of others as member of the church or the community of believers..

]]> By: concern lang http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/#comment-318 concern lang Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:33:48 +0000 http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/#comment-318 Catholics, I can't help but post what i am feeling about the Bishops. I believe that they are dividing the Catholics by meddling with the Politics. I surely belived in God and i Don't want to Disrespect the Bishops because they are supposed to be the God Messenger, but in mixing religion with the Politics they putting to risk my Belief and RESPECT for them. I for one doesn't agree that they should be on the streets doing the rally everytime they don't agree with the government. Try to think if their parishoners will not agree with them and go to street. What would they think? This country will go nowhere if everytime there are disagreements, the church, leftish, opportunist politicians, rightist etc.. will do street demonstrations and ask for the resignation of every President they don't like. Lets be guided by the Rule of Law not by street Law. And also please, Bishops think very hard, baka 'INUUTO LANG KAYO NG MGA OPPORTUNIST, you're grievances maybe valid but the way you do it and letting yourself be used by others who have personal ambition is not acceptable for many people. Father Robert I think is pressuring his Leaders on what he personally believe and doesn't like to think of what the other Prelate is thinking. He is pressuring Father Rosales by comparing him against Father Sin. As if He is making intrigues against the Two Church Leaders. Father Rosales has his own mind and approach to the problem. I think He want's to tackle the problem constructively than rushis His judgement. So please be careful in what you are say and do as our belief and respect is also affected in what you are doing. Catholics,

I can’t help but post what i am feeling about the Bishops. I believe that they are dividing the Catholics by meddling with the Politics. I surely belived in God and i Don’t want to Disrespect the Bishops because they are supposed to be the God Messenger, but in mixing religion with the Politics they putting to risk my Belief and RESPECT for them. I for one doesn’t agree that they should be on the streets doing the rally everytime they don’t agree with the government.

Try to think if their parishoners will not agree with them and go to street. What would they think?

This country will go nowhere if everytime there are disagreements, the church, leftish, opportunist politicians, rightist etc.. will do street demonstrations and ask for the resignation of every President they don’t like. Lets be guided by the Rule of Law not by street Law.

And also please, Bishops think very hard, baka ‘INUUTO LANG KAYO NG MGA OPPORTUNIST, you’re grievances maybe valid but the way you do it and letting yourself be used by others who have personal ambition is not acceptable for many people.

Father Robert I think is pressuring his Leaders on what he personally believe and doesn’t like to think of what the other Prelate is thinking. He is pressuring Father Rosales by comparing him against Father Sin. As if He is making intrigues against the Two Church Leaders.

Father Rosales has his own mind and approach to the problem. I think He want’s to tackle the problem constructively than rushis His judgement. So please be careful in what you are say and do as our belief and respect is also affected in what you are doing.

]]> By: Anonymous http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/#comment-305 Anonymous Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:40:06 +0000 http://kaigorotan.com/2008/02/25/not-sitting-in-a-tree/#comment-305 when will the church stop meddling with the government. there should be a clear separation between the church and the government... hmm maybe someone would say.. moral authority?? hmmm right... spanish inquisition, spanish era abuses, and sex scandals.. hmm right. when will the church stop meddling with the government. there should be a clear separation between the church and the government… hmm maybe someone would say.. moral authority?? hmmm right… spanish inquisition, spanish era abuses, and sex scandals.. hmm right.

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